These two trails form an 8.3 mile loop across pastures, through canyons, trees and along creeks. There are two minor water crossings. This portion of the trails is easy to moderate in difficulty. There are two short cuts which will make the distance of the loop 5.5 miles. Use caution when traveling this far from the trailheads; there is no short or easy way back once you get to the Alum Creek Trails.